From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Licence of ts-comint Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1502621936.3273210.1071832168.58C017A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503460377 4702 195.159.176.226 (23 Aug 2017 03:52:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 03:52:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 23 05:52:46 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkMiZ-0000Ca-6e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 05:52:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60219 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkMif-0003od-5W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkMi1-0003nt-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkMhw-00056I-Sr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=40364 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkMhw-00054p-Lm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkMhm-0006L8-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 05:51:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:QXI0j0yyRiKTuIfLRH6ACiRsqs0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217711 Archived-At: > Just to clarify on this point: There are nonfree frontends you can buy in > order to build your own compiler, such as the one from Edison Design Group. I > know Texas Instruments uses it to build a proprietary compiler for their > chipsets. The GPL has not stopped this from happening, it's just prevented > them from using free software, and thus the community from receiving any of > their work (which a looser open source license may have permitted). If they were willing to distribute their frontend under a weak license (as used in LLVM), it would work just fine with GCC's license. So I strongly suspect that if GCC's license were weak it would make no difference: they simply want to keep their code proprietary. > The GPL is polarizing: There's a group of people who use only that, and a > group who use none of it. Indeed. But not for real legal/technical reasons. It's due to political/ideological reasons. IMNSHO,of course, To a first approximation, in my experience, weak licenses are promoted by people who don't like to say "free software" (and even less talk about software freedom) while people who use the word "free software" or "software freedom" will usually promote the GPL. Stefan