From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:11:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7803c5de-e139-01ed-e9e3-98abb875782b@grinta.net> <1548067539.3478998.1639830432.03003247@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87bm47558t.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87pnsm2vsm.fsf@russet.org.uk> <878sz7u2f5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87o976p6xt.fsf_-_@russet.org.uk> <87tvgm7fnu.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87sgw6i89k.fsf@russet.org.uk> <875zt15y0x.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87sgw3bzod.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87r2bfx89o.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87sgvtni5f.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="81857"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 12 02:30:29 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h3WFQ-000LAY-Fg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 02:30:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43153 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3WFP-0003Qh-AZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:30:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3WDE-0002So-Vi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:28:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3VxK-0005n8-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:11:47 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:40846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3VxJ-0005lk-18 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id x2C1BgUn015947; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:11:42 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4D12B623AD; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:11:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87sgvtni5f.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:46:52 +0000") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6500=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6500> : inlines <7031> : streams <1815444> : uri <2811091> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234085 Archived-At: > The only good time it seems easier is stuck on a plane without network. Working on Emacs without network access is very common for me. So it's an important use-case. I don't really care if there's a configure flag to enable/disable the GNU ELPA integration, but I'd want to enable it, and I'd also want my builds to keep working without any extra hassle when I'm offline. Also, as a general rule, for technical reasons as well as for privacy reasons we consider it important not to initiate network connections unless the user explicitly requested that network connection. [ Same reason why Emacs doesn't offer to auto-update packages at startup. ] Stefan