From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 17:18:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> <838sicw4do.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhaqu89z.fsf@gnu.org> <83sggiu2p9.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1w2s9wi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="129192"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, Eli Zaretskii , Richard Stallman , Emacs developers To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 03 23:18:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVM0b-000XQx-Dz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:18:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60210 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVM0a-00009C-Bc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 17:18:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVM00-000879-0T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 17:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:20572) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVLzy-0007L3-R5; Sun, 03 May 2020 17:18:07 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E215980EC0; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 656A6809E9; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:18:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588540683; bh=kogj3BTJ5IUsW2/VUSdHwMSxGaa57K1NDegOO2J67Z4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=kh7BDgSoTH4fZYZHqQlRucGDga6nSlLmuvmKN9ukTOjALGp1zbq0R1mUxBGXYF7gb /+JyP4VXwz1nYt8T8ZQPpkzqW4JOjBzWdgZ8SCV13B0BMbn1pQnaYkG5fFCXhRMYAr 0urIeBHfIG8p/4iEWSPCo9WfcuTOCIK61labDhvK/tO6yvl8v6DvsIC4cj/e9DBGBR tpEaVAwC8aEAeyhfdLO6K7f0hUaJH08WdJyfQ1PfYK6qdBb9/q+vkPy3/UKQ/fBU0q rjuyd8Q21x7Gk0Tq8x/soxqmuNtUIC3B/9+N71fTeHM2tIvsDcSDDG8UEdQe4dCnYo 70spdPcOnf4SQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01CF3120484; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:18:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 3 May 2020 12:46:07 -0700 (PDT)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/03 16:39:48 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248745 Archived-At: > That's the rub/misunderstanding, I think. That > namespaces are used does not imply that naming > need be based on object type. The propositions here aren't to group based on *types*. Please stop those strawman arguments, again. E.g. the `re-` renaming is not about any rind of "regular expression type". They're based on the same notions of namespacing used in modules/packages/younameit, which is also the namespacing used in Elisp packages, as a matter of fact, so it's really not a concept foreign to Elisp. Stefan