From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs raison d'etre Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 13:37:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <70bb51fd-447d-928c-4d69-1c9673a44471@online.de> <871rnnvmdx.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pnb7sira.fsf@red-bean.com> <87lflcg0k9.fsf@red-bean.com> <0f1cd319-fa8c-4453-b909-fdd36f337906@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="60683"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Karl Fogel , excalamus@tutanota.com, Andreas Roehler , Richard Stallman , Drew Adams To: excalamus--- via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 28 19:38:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jeMTu-000FgO-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 19:38:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47610 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeMTt-0003JQ-SK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 13:38:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52994) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeMT9-0002S1-A0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 13:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:57582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeMT7-0008BI-V4; Thu, 28 May 2020 13:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6F25880BB1; Thu, 28 May 2020 13:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CA59A805F9; Thu, 28 May 2020 13:37:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1590687442; bh=sSHc3wLuqhqnTuEeVhcpzDiqBShqwJOigt+MlaTyyW8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZSR7C+mY8ArBoi7PppmjhKecdWEW+Q8moQ4uw69mg2fYF3aMK9JSj6Iza8gdLfYHL ozLQ8MzGI0sRtVbyoVBdOxctKS2I6mivaM/BeG94kdfXt1zo44gJcmaSYMSScl609d BdqBUgdX1bnKcB+fKGQs9fv1llR0kNuLTJTyIeDrEJEtV3SJ+XkNfv/+zadaWHz0SQ p4SxpLFjXQW4rLPtgIn5yvrQ3lMDj6jrnwfby58pjC0DJ1WQYRgRYIitAIt0ZvbhIW Xm+s9xWuNyHBOzbqqmZK91iqLQEEpiVmjjXGQkMBIy0gHewTWxDSUOtcm81Hj9OWum nV5un2j5hjZAw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.27.250]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D823C1201F1; Thu, 28 May 2020 13:37:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (excalamus's message of "Thu, 28 May 2020 16:12:24 +0200 (CEST)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/28 12:24:56 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251566 Archived-At: > What does C-g mean? For me, the intuition is a sound that I find hard to transcribe into ASCII but could be something like "ghuhuh!" with the accent on the second "u" and a good dose of frustration sprinkled throughout ;-) Stefan