From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Why is defun not executed during load-file? Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 15:47:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k0nfesns.fsf@zoho.eu> <87mtsbd31w.fsf@zoho.eu> <87a6oad81r.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6614"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:tZ5JN2ah5OEQzWj7F7UlrOrk3ak= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 21:48:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnntq-0001Y3-J2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 21:48:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45824 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnntp-0006ey-Lh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 15:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnnt2-0006ce-QE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 15:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:45750) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnnt1-0004vH-Az for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 15:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnnsz-0000XP-Ob for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 21:47:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130389 Archived-At: > Hm ... interesting. Yeah, maybe we should start do that more? Not really: it's better to avoid macros when you can. But it's better to use macros than to use `eval`. > What kind of things or problems could or should you solve > with macros? Whenever you find yourself forced to use `eval` ? Stefan