From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding the `prescient` packages to NonGNU ELPA? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301073 Archived-At: > If you are asking whether I add the Git repository itself to the load > path for testing packages, I do not. Instead, I have been using > Straight.el (https://github.com/radian-software/straight.el) to install > development versions of packages, which can download the repository once > but only install the files and needed dependencies (according to a > specification) by linking/copying those compiled files to another > directory, which is then added to the load path. Ah, so `straight` relies on linking/copying the files. Do things like `C-h f` still jump to the actual VCS-controlled source? How does it make sure the copies are updated/sync'd when you edit the VCS-controlled sources? > For Prescient in particular, it makes sense to have the files in a > single repository, since a change in the main file can mean changes in > the extension files and vice versa (as a single conceptual step in > development). However, testing the development version of an extension > for one UI (such as for Vertico) doesn't necessarily mean wanting to use > the development version of another UI's extension (such as for Company) > or wanting to install another extension's dependee UI package (such as > Selectrum, which was soft-deprecated in favor of Vertico). I think in the context of `package-vc` the cleanest way to support some of that would be to require that the different subpackages's files live in different subdirectories of the repository (so we can add/remove them from `load-path` independently). [ I also note a tension here: on the one hand you say that the development is sufficiently tightly linked that you may want to change several subpackages in a single commit , but on the other you want to be able to use different versions of different subpackages at the same time which requires a looser coupling. ] > Is this what you are asking? Yes, exactly, thank you. > Really, I was wanting to ask whether package-vc installs all of the > ELisp files in a repository or whether it installs the files according It does a `git clone`, creates the *-pkg.el and *-autoloads.el files, compiles the files and adds them to `load-path`. So you run your code straight :-) from the VCS clone. > to the ELPA spec or a provided spec. I see that the user option > `package-vc-selected-packages` does not mention the `:ignored-files` > entry that the ELPA spec uses, so I was wondering. Indeed, it does not support things like `:ignored-files` or `.elpaignore` or `:renames`. Stefan