From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60527: 30.0.50; Typing SPC in a minibuffer with completion Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2023 14:05:17 -0500 Message-ID: Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22826"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 60527@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 03 20:06:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pCmc6-0005eJ-9J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2023 20:06:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pCmbt-0000Tg-B7; 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Typing a SPC in a "minibuffer with completion" can be needed when the things we want to complete contains a SPC character (e.g. file names, which is why we disable that SPC binding when completing file names), but also when using completion styles like `orderless` which make the use of a SPC character to specify how to select the completion candidates. So my favorite option is indeed to simply remove this binding. Those few users who like it and use it (probably long-time users of Emacs) could easily get it back with: (define-key minibuffer-local-completion-map " " 'minibuffer-complete-word) Another option is to change `minibuffer-complete-word` so that instead of beeping "No match", it inserts a SPC when there's no completion and `require-match` is nil (after checking that the command was invoked via SPC). Yet another option would be to let callers of `completing-read` indicate that it's likely the users will sometimes want to type a SPC character for this specific minibuffer input (i.e. `completing-read` would then use a map like `minibuffer-local-filename-completion-map`). Currently packages which want to use `completing-read` to let the users enter a string that will often contain spaces are reduced the either telling their users "Add this `define-key` thingy in your .emacs because the defaults suck" or having to use a `minibuffer-with-setup-hook` workaround that forcefully rebinds SPC during that minibuffer session, which may be the wrong thing to do if SPC was binding to something else than `minibuffer-complete-word`. Both of those options are undesirable, IMO. We should instead improve the defaults to make such recommendations and workarounds unnecessary. 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