From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:03:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3825"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 21 21:04:24 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sKjYe-0000qC-5x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:04:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKjYK-0005B7-Hs; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKjYI-0005Aa-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKjYG-0007m3-Jh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0B13880C8E; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:03:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1718996636; bh=GD7r/lu9ACTjVF4fD6CMzSdUsATvDz/6DN2HSI4OimA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Pw/3CVjsZC2iqMXQ7dcniITJTohBgNOgpK3lr2xRWrT1zVoEHXKgcWcCiSiKdgj0c 7qxUwXWYr/y0RPESn3p+yjjpxVh4oHBRGNgjEViP1bgy+wUbb7T/4wi+TRoFLc1WsR LbLLcR2KbF908jxoPefUAohT6ljivS5dHgB8n9D6wPakayk14QeryDGxI1Ipc3Y+zH wa+kbYLy0l5w4DzeADgtx23F6lGkF73ElcTCxIx9MF4CZOtV/fKt4Fj9gysJbpHPtt KTqHIuXtmnf1r/qO0iwUYqKEExcw6J/NoVkQOCzUGvtvpkDg1jRspAt8gHknV+SaPG b0SeZEk934+ZA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D5242801D8; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A06311203FF; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:03:56 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 22 Aug 2021 13:52:46 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320435 Archived-At: A few years ago, Daniel suggested: > Likewise, for windmove, we can bind C-x 4 {left, right, up, down} and DWIM > for people automatically, enabled by default. AFAICT we still don't actually provide any keybindings for the windmove commands by default. Did I miss a controversy about that, or did it just fall through the cracks? [ I mean, I assume there are different opinions about which set of keybindings is the best, but it seems to me that it should not be that hard to find a default set of keybindings that's better than no keybindings at all. ] Stefan