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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Károly Lorentey" <karoly@lorentey.hu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: multi-tty branch created
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:24:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8xbnghrp.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464C7D1F.7000201@lorentey.hu> ("Károly Lo"'s message of "Thu\, 17 May 2007 18\:04\:47 +0200")

>> For the sake of transparent backward compatibility, I'd make --current-frame
>> the default,  and use -nw as an argument to force the use of the new
>> multi-tty feature.  This way you only get the new feature when you ask
>> for it.  I normally prefer using an X11 frame over a tty frame, so I'd only
>> want to use -nw in those cases where it matters (typically when the
>> bandwidth is limited).

> You assume that emacsclient now opens a tty frame even if X is
> available.  That's not the case.  Emacsclient works like Emacs: it
> prefers X, and falls back to the tty only if X is unavailable or the
> user forces opening a tty frame by supplying "-t" (the emacsclient
> equivalent to "-nw").

> 	$ emacsclient
> 		==> X frame

There are *many* different ways to create new frames (one per "session",
one per file, reuse old ones or not, ...).  I hope you got it right ;-)

> 	$ emacsclient -t
> 		==> tty frame
> 	$ emacsclient -c
> 		==> no new frame

Maybe it's OK.  Note that when I added the --display argument, I was
careful to not automatically use the $DISPLAY envvar, in order to preserve
backward compatibility, so users have to say --display "$DISPLAY" if they
want it.

My experience with Emacs is that when introducing a new feature, any minor
backward incompatibility will slow down adoption, so it's easier to just let
new features disabled by default.  See the comment-style variable for
another example ;-)

> I agree that "-t" should be renamed "-nw"; in fact this idea is even in
> the README file.  However, multi-character short options are a pain to
> implement.  I'd prefer if someone with more getopt experience would do
> it instead. :-)

I see.  Yes, it's a problem with the current argument scheme, indeed.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-17 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-13 13:31 multi-tty branch created Miles Bader
2007-05-13 14:50 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 16:12   ` Miles Bader
2007-05-13 16:14     ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 16:13   ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 19:28     ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-16 13:24     ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-16 13:46       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-05-16 15:04         ` Károly Lőrentey
2007-05-16 15:34           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-16 16:11             ` Károly Lőrentey
2007-05-16 21:17             ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-16 16:20         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-05-16 17:39       ` David Kastrup
2007-05-16 20:48         ` Károly Lőrentey
2007-05-17 14:02       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-17 16:04         ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-17 23:24           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-05-18 18:02             ` Károly Lo"rentey
2007-05-19 14:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-13 20:07 ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-14 10:21   ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-14 11:55     ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-15 13:03       ` Karoly Lorentey
2007-05-15 22:05     ` Ken Raeburn
2007-05-14  6:00 ` Manoj Srivastava

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