From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving X selection? Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:51:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8e24944a0802030338i1ce3397yba581ffedbe2f118@mail.gmail.com> <47A5B737.8000804@swipnet.se> <8e24944a0802030512t77c4ca20s6d059df50295ebd2@mail.gmail.com> <8e24944a0802041302n45064c4fm2ac428ceda204254@mail.gmail.com> <47A80B57.3050402@swipnet.se> <8e24944a0802061957re4baf7cr9560fa3496be56b4@mail.gmail.com> <8e24944a0802070815n18dea273j5c3962235d91ca8e@mail.gmail.com> <87bq6sir34.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8e24944a0802071022i2b259c5fka14f191a3c519157@mail.gmail.com> <20080207160124.7eec9cdd@tomh> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202424745 11805 80.91.229.12 (7 Feb 2008 22:52:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David De La Harpe Golden , "Jan D." , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Stephen J. Turnbull" , rms@gnu.org To: Tom Horsley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 23:52:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JNFbj-00063u-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:52:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNFbG-0006Tv-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:52:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNFbB-0006QB-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:52:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNFb9-0006ON-D0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:52:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNFb9-0006OC-0k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:52:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNFb5-0001tu-7Q; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:51:59 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAE72CF333; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:51:58 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019603FE0; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:51:48 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D1A256CAA0; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:51:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20080207160124.7eec9cdd@tomh> (Tom Horsley's message of "Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:01:24 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88472 Archived-At: >> For all three cases, the first question is "where does the text come from": >> No 3 should always use the CLIPBOARD then PRIMARY then kill ring. >> No 2 should use the CLIPBOARD only if x-select-enable-clipboard is set. >> No 1 is identical except it may also not check PRIMARY either. > This is, of course, totally a matter of opinion, and is the reason > the complication exists for those of us who have other opinions. I must say I do not understand. It seems your opinion is covered in the above. Except for the details of what happens where there's both a CLIPBOARD and a PRIMARY selection (and they're different, of course) which is neither mentioned nor ruled out. Stefan "Using ctwm" PS: For the rest I agree whole heartedly. Been through the pain of trying cut&paste and have it fail unexplicably (at least until I figured that one app uses CLIPBOARD and the other PRIMARY etc...). I also tend to agree with your rant about freedesktop.