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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, nick.steeves@uleth.ca,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PATCH to add euro symbol to French-{postfix, alt-postfix, prefix} input methods
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:41:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8x113fsu.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47C9B428.5070606@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:53:12 +0000")

> If the input method is called "latin-1-prefix" (-postfix, -alt), then the
> user would expect it not to produce characters outside the latin-1 
> range. But for input methods called "french-prefix" etc, I think they would
> expect to be able to type all letters and symbols in common usage in French,
> which these days includes the euro symbol. European users have surely
> encountered the fact that the euro is not covered by the latin-1 character
> set by now, so if they want to save in latin-1 
> encoding, they will simply avoid it. The "latin-*" input methods already
> contain the euro, so there is precedent for including it.

Most of the latin-N input methods made a lot of sense in Emacs-22 where
the chars were not unified.  Now that they're unified, the distinction
is not nearly as important, so I'm in favor of merging/removing most of
those methods, keeping just some generic "latin" input method maybe,
plus the language-specific ones of course.

The impact it may have on the encoding used when saving the file is best
tackled elsewhere.  E.g. if the user's preferred coding systems
indicate that latin-1 is preferred over latin-9, then saving a file as
latin-9 in the absence of any coding cookie should prompt the user,
explaining that Emacs will mis-detect it as latin-1 next time around.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-02  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-25 10:51 PATCH to add euro symbol to French-{postfix, alt-postfix, prefix} input methods Nick Steeves
     [not found] ` <87k5ktuf7d.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
     [not found]   ` <E1JTnvq-0008Ol-Rc@etlken.m17n.org>
     [not found]     ` <87mypo5x1e.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
     [not found]       ` <1204070698.4334.39.camel@Argo.Styx>
2008-02-28 19:24         ` Chong Yidong
2008-02-28 20:00           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  2:26             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  4:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29  5:49                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29  9:21                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-29 10:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 12:02               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 12:08                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 13:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 14:09                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 14:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-02-29 14:39                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-01  1:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01  2:02                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-29 14:45                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-01  1:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01 13:32                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-29 19:24                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-29 14:50                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-29 19:54               ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-29 21:38                 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01  8:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 10:31                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 11:22                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-03-01 11:51                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 12:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 13:00                           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-01 14:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 19:53                               ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-02  4:41                                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-03-01 12:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-01 23:09                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-01 13:43                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-28 21:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29  9:56             ` Nick Steeves
2008-02-29 14:58             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-02  4:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-29 19:54           ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-29 20:05             ` Jason Rumney

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