From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: FW: Minibuf menu when minibuffer is standalone Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <001001c883ab$528a70f0$0600a8c0@us.oracle.com> <47D6FC28.2090306@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205272264 31481 80.91.229.12 (11 Mar 2008 21:51:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , 'Emacs-Devel' To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 11 22:51:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZCNe-0007hA-5c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:51:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCN5-0000Iq-Mf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCN0-0000HT-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCMy-0000H9-7e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCMy-0000H6-11 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZCMx-0007RO-Q9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660202CFA27; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815663FE0; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 702446CAA2; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <47D6FC28.2090306@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:39:52 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92207 Archived-At: > For learning perhaps? Maybe not very useful for you though ... ;-) > However looking at the Minibuff menu when doing C-x C-f in CVS Emacs 23 > I see a little bit strangeness: > Minibuff > Complete -- TAB > Complete Word > List Completions -- ? > Previous History Item -- M-p > Next History Item -- M-n > Isearch History Backward -- C-r > Isearch History Forward -- C-s > Enter -- C-j > Quit -- M-ESC ESC > I would perhaps expect some to be different > Previous History Item -- up > Next History Item -- down > Quit -- C-g > It seems like the choice of keybinding to show could be done better. The Quit one looks bad indeed. The other 2 are right: we want to show the bindings which work everywhere whenever possible, whereas `up' and `down' keys may not always be available. > Enter -- C-j > I do not understand that one at all. That's not too good either, indeed, but I don't see it here (it just doesn't say anything at all for me). Stefan