From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch to INSTALL.CVS to clarify why `make bootstrap' sometimes fails. Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:17:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080607101446.GD1812@muc.de> <87lk1hawpx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212869907 17160 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2008 20:18:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 07 22:19:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K54s4-00024M-9h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:18:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38969 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K54rH-00020Y-4L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:17:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K54rB-0001zJ-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:17:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K54r8-0001vX-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59450 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K54r8-0001vD-Ej for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:17:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:52851 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K54r3-0008Pw-8K; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:17:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvABABKKSkjO+ISodGdsb2JhbACBVpAzASecNg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,606,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="22262844" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 07 Jun 2008 16:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.132.168]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id NAY60935; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B96D18864; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:17:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87lk1hawpx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:09:14 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98617 Archived-At: >> Rather than improve the documentation of our Makefile's brokenness, >> we should fix the beast. E.g. `make bootstrap' should begin by doing >> a `maintainer-clean'. > Doesn't that remove configure/Makefile/...?! Well, maybe you shouldn't take the above too literally. > [Removing those seems unnecessary and annoying/dangerous-if-you're-making...] Indeed, you wouldn't want to do that in maintainer-clean. But maintainer-clean does more, otherwise it wouldn't be useful before running ./configure. Stefan