From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-x C-v considered harmful Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <19020.2798.523236.406366@rgr.rgrjr.com> <19025.11320.136726.700230@rgr.rgrjr.com> <19035.61767.336003.105545@rgr.rgrjr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247596518 4541 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2009 18:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bob Rogers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 14 20:35:11 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQmqK-0007vb-Ne for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:35:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmqK-0005QS-5E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmpv-0005Be-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmpq-00059j-Ha for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42657 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmpq-00059e-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:4348 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MQmpq-0004Nk-61 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:38 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEGALRsXEpMCpbp/2dsb2JhbACBUSvQVIQIBYZu X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,398,1243828800"; d="scan'208";a="41578403" Original-Received: from 76-10-150-233.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.150.233]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 14 Jul 2009 14:34:37 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9B6027EF7; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <19035.61767.336003.105545@rgr.rgrjr.com> (Bob Rogers's message of "Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:45:27 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112460 Archived-At: > This did not occur to me. But I notice that typing "C-x C-v d RET" > fails to require a "[Confirm]" if the value of > confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer is after-completion. Since this is Oops, indeed, I forgot about this "detail". Thanks for reminding me. > And it doesn't help at all with the fact that even "C-x k" is skimpy > in the warning department. Are you rejecting Drew's argument that it is > really kill-buffer that needs attention (at least when invoked > interactively)? I do not oppose the change to kill-buffer, no. I'm just happy that this thread pointed out the lack of support for confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer in C-x C-v (and did so before the release). Stefan