From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:15:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <874ohen792.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <37661.130.55.118.19.1275949975.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1275957650 15058 80.91.229.12 (8 Jun 2010 00:40:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 08 02:40:46 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLmri-0001Zd-H1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:40:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42043 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLmrW-0002Ek-Hu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:40:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54280 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLmTe-0001bG-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:15:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLmTa-0005zm-KG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:62488 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLmTF-0005vX-1u; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:15:09 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroHANooDUxFpYBi/2dsb2JhbACBKp0Xcr9uhRYEjGc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,381,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="67551934" Original-Received: from 69-165-128-98.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.128.98]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 07 Jun 2010 20:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8E4568175; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:15:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:40:16 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125625 Archived-At: > Ah, OK. So what I was observing (no difference between C-f and > in L2R paragraphs) is the wrong behavior. I was indeed > misunderstanding. No, what you're observing is the desired behavior. All it shows is: Actually, the arrow keys don't do "visual motion". which was pointed out to David in response to his statement: Since we opened that can of worms already by making C-f/C-b do logical motion as opposed to the arrow keys doing visual motion, So, no we didn't open that can of worms. And please let's stop the thread here. Stefan