From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7487: 24.0.50; Gnus nnimap broken Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:32:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291927405 24603 80.91.229.12 (9 Dec 2010 20:43:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 20:43:25 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 21:43:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQnKe-0007Jz-8Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 21:43:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38965 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQnFb-0008CM-Ck for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:38:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51233 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQigb-0000Ff-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:45:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQigZ-0006qm-7I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:45:36 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35237) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQigZ-0006qe-3F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:45:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQiLh-0006v7-VD; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:24:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7487 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.129190822526579 (code B ref -1); Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2010 15:23:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQiLQ-0006ud-J7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQiLN-0006uR-QF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQiRB-0002H3-6b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:29:42 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:32793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQiRB-0002Gz-3Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:29:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54867 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQiR8-0007hW-Nz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:29:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQiR5-0002Eu-PV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:29:38 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:60685 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQiR5-0002EO-Mt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:29:35 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmkKABKEAE1FpZR3/2dsb2JhbACVVo0MgRl5wCeDEoI4BIRkjgU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,320,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84951754" Original-Received: from 69-165-148-119.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.148.119]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 09 Dec 2010 10:29:34 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2718A6616B; Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:32:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:56:21 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:24:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42358 Archived-At: >> It seems gnus-agent (which I never explicitly enabled, but have had >> problems with in past upgrades after it was enabled by default) is out >> of sync with the server, and deleting the ~/News/agent directory fixed >> the problem. > Gnus has stopped enabling the Agent by default now, but older > installations can still get in the way. I've Cc'd this to the Gnus > mailing list -- do any of you know why the Agent got so wildly out of > what with nnimap in the past? I need the Agent with nnimap. And I think Gnus should enable the Agent everywhere by default nowadays. Most/all other MUAs do. > that I'm tempted to go back to just storing this data in the plain-text > ~/.authinfo file until all this has been worked out. No!!!! Or only after prompting the user five times for (different) confirmation. > When writing the ~/.authinfo.gpg file, the user should be queried one > thing: "Password for ~/.authinfo.gpg: ****". And that's it, in my > extremely humble opinion. I partly agree, though some users won't have a key-pair setup, others will have several, so the right thing to do may be either to use symmetric encryption, or to guess which key-pair to use, and since it's a guess there needs to be a way for the user to override the guess. Stefan