From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12314: 24.2.50; `add-to-history': use `setq' with `delete' Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:59:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7602D24B74DE42CF9901322634B85CA2@us.oracle.com> <87sjas4mc2.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipbomv6e.fsf@gnu.org> <2C45207ADF0E46BC98AF1B486695F632@us.oracle.com> <83fw6smti6.fsf@gnu.org> <9A8F619FD7584123A6319BD089E444E4@us.oracle.com> <83bohgmrdv.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9x0mq5e.fsf@gnu.org> <8E40573C868D4B339513A16A02588F5E@us.oracle.com> <837gs4mcqy.fsf@gnu.org> <83627nnc2l.fsf@gnu.org> <83392rm840.fsf@gnu.org> <83pq5ulchr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347282043 30449 80.91.229.3 (10 Sep 2012 13:00:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12314@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 15:00:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3bY-0006yu-NI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:00:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49835 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3bV-0003xf-9w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:00:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48671) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3bO-0003x1-Th for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:00:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3bH-0002y4-Hf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:00:34 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42051) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3bH-0002xw-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:00:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3bp-00066d-KX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:01:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12314 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12314-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12314.134728200523225 (code B ref 12314); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12314) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2012 13:00:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51597 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3au-00062W-HJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:43770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TB3as-00061y-59 for 12314@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:00:02 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu0+4rxAc/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBVhYNBQsLNBIUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOjM4FYgwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="197956411" Original-Received: from 184-175-16-28.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.16.28]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 10 Sep 2012 08:59:26 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6CCCF59219; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:59:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83pq5ulchr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:37:20 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64036 Archived-At: > See my other message: I think we are talking about 2 different > things. My gripe was only about using the term "destructive > modification", which muddies the waters without gaining anything. I don't know, to me "destructive modification" sounds like a very clear term explaining the general kind of danger we're up against (the kind that's summarized in Scheme by adding a "!" at the end of the identifier). Stefan