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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>, 17625@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17625: 24.4.50; All installed packages marked "unsigned", no archive listed
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 20:58:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8uphlawz.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wxbnud63kf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 31 May 2014 17:28:16 -0400")

>> AFAIK we currently use http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/, so no SSL
>> involved.
> Right.  Will it Just Work to change that to https?

That would make libgnutls indispensable, and would also require us
getting the cert-verification working correctly.
Nothing significantly more troublesome than requiring users to have GPG
installed and have the ELPA key in the keyring.
And of course we'd need to make sure the "fallback to no checking"
works when gnutls/gpg is not available.

>> I don't enough about SSL certs to be sure whether it would provide
>> comparable guarantees to signed packages.
> I think SSL would verify that you are talking to the server that you
> thought you were talking too,

Right.

> and that no-one had injected anything in between you and it.

Presumably, yes.

> Which is all that gpg-signed packages would do, if the machine that
> hosts the packages also does the signing (AFAICS).

Of course, there are also hypothetical situations, such as someone
setting up a mirror.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-01  0:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-29  3:13 bug#17625: 24.4.50; All installed packages marked "unsigned", no archive listed Eric Abrahamsen
2014-05-30  5:14 ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-30 16:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-31 17:42     ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-31 19:22       ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-31 20:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-31 21:28         ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-01  0:58           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-06-05 14:24           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-06-05  6:19     ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-21 23:50       ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-22 12:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-23 16:01           ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-23 18:12             ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-23 21:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-24  5:56                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-25 15:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 15:47               ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-25 16:47                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 17:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 21:02                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-06-25 22:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26  7:28               ` Daiki Ueno
2014-06-26 13:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26 14:29                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-06-26 16:50                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26 18:59                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-06-26 19:51                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-27  0:47                           ` Daiki Ueno
2014-06-27  0:52                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-24 15:05                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-30  0:33                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30  1:28                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2014-09-30 11:06                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30  3:55                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-30 11:02                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 14:24                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-30 18:19                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-01 23:13                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 15:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26 13:53                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-06-23 19:53           ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-30  7:26 ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-30 16:23   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-30 16:48     ` Glenn Morris
2014-05-30 17:38     ` Achim Gratz
2014-05-30 18:39       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-30 18:58         ` Achim Gratz
2014-05-30 19:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-17 20:46 ` bug#17645: Close Eric Abrahamsen

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