From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:07:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y4puad75.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419728891 6527 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2014 01:08:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 01:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel , "Richard M. Stallman" , Drew Adams , Tom To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 02:08:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y52Kx-0004in-JR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 02:08:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y52Kw-00041h-MY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y52Ks-00041X-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:07:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y52Ko-0007A2-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:07:58 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:30657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y52Ko-00079y-5C; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:07:54 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AskIAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYMp3BAICgSQXAQEBAQEBfIQDAQEDAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiEoJ1lkBAQEHAQEBAR6QbweESAWEbAKGE6QugXiEGSGCdwEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: AskIAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYMp3BAICgSQXAQEBAQEBfIQDAQEDAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiEoJ1lkBAQEHAQEBAR6QbweESAWEbAKGE6QugXiEGSGCdwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="103671651" Original-Received: from 206-248-130-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.130.192]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 27 Dec 2014 20:07:53 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 31EF4660FB; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:07:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 00:03:41 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180732 Archived-At: > It is unclear what you object to. Is it: > 1) Using a service like Google etc to find documentation. > 2) Using internet as a communication channel to a (search) server set > up and controlled by FSF to find documentation? Controlled by the FSF is of no help. Controlled by a user-setup server would be acceptable from a Freedom point of view, but to me the main issue is that it should work when disconnected. Stefan