From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problem with new cl-lib 0.6 in ELPA Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1484013917 29282 195.159.176.226 (10 Jan 2017 02:05:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 02:05:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 10 03:05:13 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQloB-0006el-SD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:05:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44160 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQloG-0000Wp-B0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:05:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQlnf-0000Wf-Lj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:04:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQlnc-0006N0-HA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:04:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=47235 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQlnc-0006FK-Bc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:04:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQlnS-0001Lg-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:04:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:mXzYMwcZGvet70h9Jz2lLg+Ilqo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211175 Archived-At: Steve> The new cl-lib version now declares a package dependency on Emacs Steve> 21, which actually renders it completely uninstallable in Emacs < Steve> 24, since the only versions of package.el usable in Emacs 23.x Steve> have no concept of built-in packages like "emacs". > > Something is weird here, because "emacs" as a package was in package.el > at the very beginning. This is also documented in > (info "(elisp) Library Headers") > > I'm not aware that there is any version of package.el compatible with > 23.4 which supports both multiple archives and the "emacs" > pseudo-package. AFAIK most ELPA packages don't care very much about being installable with package.el in Emacs<24, but I don't see any reason why we can't make a package.el that works in Emacs<24 and is "up-to-date" in the sense that it supports the `emacs` package and the new version-less dependencies. Stefan