Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 021430f: New commands: find-library-other-window, find-library-other-frame

Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 021430f: New commands: find-library-other-window, find-library-other-frame

[Stefan Monnier]

> +** Two new commands for finding the source code of Emacs Lisp
> +libraries: 'find-library-other-window' and 'find-library-other-frame'.

I thought the intention was to move towards the other-frame-window
package, so you can just do

    C-x 5 M-x find-library RET
or
    C-x 4 M-x find-library RET

to open it in another frame resp. window.


        Stefan

Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 021430f: New commands: find-library-other-window, find-library-other-frame

[Charles A. Roelli]

This package sounds pretty complicated.  And also, wouldn't it step on 
user bindings made in C-x 4 and C-x 5 keymaps?


On 20/05/2017 14:58, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> +** Two new commands for finding the source code of Emacs Lisp
>> +libraries: 'find-library-other-window' and 'find-library-other-frame'.
> I thought the intention was to move towards the other-frame-window
> package, so you can just do
>
>      C-x 5 M-x find-library RET
> or
>      C-x 4 M-x find-library RET
>
> to open it in another frame resp. window.
>
>
>          Stefan

Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 021430f: New commands: find-library-other-window, find-library-other-frame

[Stefan Monnier]

> This package sounds pretty complicated.

Indeed, you can't replace all the *-other-window and *-other-frame
functions (and automatically create all the ones that have been missing)
once and forall without some effort.

> And also, wouldn't it step on user bindings made in C-x 4 and C-x
> 5 keymaps?

They'd need to update their .emacs to bind them in another map, yes.
Tho, IIRC, we could add some hack to try and keep some of those old
configs working as expected, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.


        Stefan

Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 021430f: New commands: find-library-other-window, find-library-other-frame

[Stephen Leake]

"Charles A. Roelli" <charles@aurox.ch> writes:

> This package sounds pretty complicated.  

(I'm the author of other-frame-window, with lots of input from
Stefan)

Do you mean "complicated to use"?

I don't see why; it's just prefix keys that mean "other frame" or "other
window". You can rebind the keys to something convenient.

I recently improved the package description in Gnu ELPA; let me know how
it could be improved further.

If you mean "complicated to implement", it wasn't, but that's not very
relevant anyway, since it _is_ implemented, and Just Works. That's the
beauty of packages.

In the long run, it makes all other packages simpler, because they don't
have to provide *-other-frame/window versions of functions.

> And also, wouldn't it step on user bindings made in C-x 4 and C-x 5
> keymaps?

By default, it uses C-x 7, 9, but you might want to rebind those to C-x
4, 5.


> On 20/05/2017 14:58, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> +** Two new commands for finding the source code of Emacs Lisp
>>> +libraries: 'find-library-other-window' and 'find-library-other-frame'.
>> I thought the intention was to move towards the other-frame-window
>> package, so you can just do
>>
>>      C-x 5 M-x find-library RET
>> or
>>      C-x 4 M-x find-library RET
>>
>> to open it in another frame resp. window.
>>
>>
>>          Stefan
>
>
>

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-- Stephe