From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 54b9213: Handle thread-signal towards the main thread (Bug#32502) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:12:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20180830192912.24309.93190@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20180830192914.85ECE20497@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87bm9j812d.fsf@gmx.de> <83va7iwvqx.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnxqwkv1.fsf@gnu.org> <83y3cdvp2a.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536322246 11705 195.159.176.226 (7 Sep 2018 12:10:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 12:10:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 14:10:42 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyFax-0002vE-6J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:10:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38355 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyFd3-0006YA-In for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45519) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyFcw-0006Y4-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:12:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyFct-0000qP-FL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:56918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyFcq-0000L2-9A; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:12:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id w87CCV38018943; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 08:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B161268404; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 08:12:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83y3cdvp2a.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:45:01 +0300") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6369=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6369> : inlines <6862> : streams <1797755> : uri <2705030> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229391 Archived-At: >> Hmm... would people really be OK with --without-threads causing Gnus to >> become unusable? > If Gnus indeed is unusable without threads (I didn't know that), It's not the case (yet), but it would be helpful to treat such a situation as a non-bug, so that Gnus can be modified to take advantage of threads without having to worry about backward compatibility. > that could be a bug in Gnus that should be fixed. Yet we wouldn't consider it a bug in Calc if it doesn't work when we build without bignums. That's the difference between bignums and threads currently, and the point of my original question is to ask whether we could change this situation and decide that Emacs-27 will always come with threads, just like it always comes with bignums. Stefan