From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 11:22:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83d07533e5.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2pt1lot.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv0h1kb0.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="96374"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: rms@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 15 17:26:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZcEl-000OuL-A0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 17:26:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58048 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZcEk-00054G-CF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZcAR-0007A8-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:2299) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZcAP-00076N-FL; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AC0B48084A; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B321A80055; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:22:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1589556145; bh=HlhOG4Rjm2DEia0n3tdJyXpM46Afs25OlZ6hXnZv1fI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Kp+NCbBNaVo1qfdIX3G0/uFeW/5sWHJ9iqlcDMFdQPMzP1/nijbsIFAleCQ22L4uU zFvLSu0+8IWkpfEG6D4GPvKkj116Sd/a4nZUWZvNI8u0TAlW9PKE4L/C4yHequFjId W5lkQhQ2G2tfM4cQOUP+Gucjep2nzZKP0j9ax45MIKheZlO4exBlROCDfRXIIiw0r5 Lg+cTnM4oqbYD8kYm81OidQg5amJyQAuEvuCwwV4MIkTEWWzmDSapufksAnByfgVAL x0/1SjYHph8EvgE81nzdxO63jGlurxCOeruttVZx0VgPksWbQ5se+2Gy1+5talztwD XEQzuk8bHjc1w== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 32D71120554; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:22:25 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Fri, 15 May 2020 14:14:02 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/15 10:04:01 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250396 Archived-At: > To replace the two that we have already? People who want to do this > tend to be very technically capable, I don=CA=BCt see the need. There's an argument to be made that "we" should encourage the use of Tor (tho this "we" isn't specifically "we, the Free Software community" but it's a community with a non-negligible overlap). Stefan