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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: "Vincent Belaïche" <vincent.belaiche@gmail.com>
Cc: "Stefan Kangas" <stefan@marxist.se>,
	"Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi@gnus.org>,
	"Vincent Belaïche" <vincentbelaiche@orange.fr>,
	5852@debbugs.gnu.org, "Göran Uddeborg" <goeran@uddeborg.se>
Subject: bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 17:01:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8s1nilza.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPAOBV-O=Ev5=FBJxpOjQVOW5Jf9aVwpUyQ27S=39rsH0cw7bw@mail.gmail.com> ("Vincent Belaïche"'s message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:27:21 +0200")

> are run sequentially in the command loop : post-command hook of
> command N does not overlap command N+1, please confirm …

That's usually true, yes.  There can be exceptions when command N itself
can run commands during execution, via a recursive command-loop
(e.g. query&replace uses that, or minibuffer interactions).

> Now, I have another speculation : SES gets the current cell from the
> cursor position by reading some buffer text property
> 'cursor-intangible.  I speculate that the radix of the bug is that when
> a command sets this cursor property, then the buffer is actually
> modified in the backgroun, and the change may not be yet in effect
> when the next command runs.  Could you confirm / infirm this
> speculation.

Hmm... no that doesn't sound right.  Emacs does try to do a few things
in the background, but it's quite limited (things like `font-lock`,
basically).  When a property like `cursor-intangible` is set, it
happens immediately.

> One more thing is the following : in SES the cursor-intangile property
> is the symbol corresponding to the cell object (which under the hood
> is a vector), not the cell object itself. This means that the property
> has to change when there are row/column insertion / deletion, which
> also inherently change the buffer, because of symbol relocation. I
> think this might be some bad design choice, and pointing directly at
> the cell object would have saved some troubles (and probably would
> also create a bunch of other problems, so do not take my statement for
> sure).

Indeed, pointing directly at the cell's vector would probably be better
(at least from the point of view of insertions/deletions but), but if
so, each cell would probably need to contain its own name (or its
coordinates).


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-30 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-07 16:15 bug#5852: 23.1; Incorrect references in ses-mode Göran Uddeborg
2020-02-29  3:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-02-29 20:13   ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-18 13:36     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-24 21:46       ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-25  5:48         ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-25  5:56           ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-25  6:17             ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-25  6:18               ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-25  6:32                 ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-25  6:38                   ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-25  6:44                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-25 17:27                       ` Vincent Belaïche
2021-07-30 21:01                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2021-08-02 21:02                           ` Vincent Belaïche
2023-12-29 12:03                       ` Vincent Belaïche
2023-12-29 12:36                         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-29 14:19                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29 15:19                             ` Vincent Belaïche
2023-12-29 22:01                         ` Göran Uddeborg
2024-01-14 13:17 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-01-14 13:35   ` Mattias Engdegård

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