From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Implementing child frames on terminal Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:03:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87czfxu7be.fsf@disroot.org> <874k19tya1.fsf@disroot.org> <83h759lb6f.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu99s860.fsf@disroot.org> <838rqklurd.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu7n10hr.fsf@disroot.org> <83r12qxyxf.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnciv48c.fsf@yahoo.com> <83czeaxwwm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7xuv3l1.fsf@yahoo.com> <83a69exvni.fsf@gnu.org> <831quoutim.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8144"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, akib@disroot.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ibluefocus@outlook.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 14 16:04:54 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oBzSY-0001sg-1P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 16:04:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36786 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBzSW-00038e-SD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBzQx-0000m7-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:32564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oBzQu-0001Xb-Ez; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 31B9F4408C4; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0FEB84408AC; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:03:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1657807390; bh=fDZdjpAggbhAbTvjS0Sn1w+EZcEIUp16b4xl9EupyrE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=F6Ydv55sYCwI4L0yVGciADGNMRPugub1H0pGzzS+C/YmnSkETLG/vETd5yZ4w6e+a jJAV2bZXXrmyK63XUCCVV5WkwplfYsVN6aG86B1FbCR+5CXqK4Fwd0o4WSXfsuRKL4 1qNmvA3lbJe/Lsk2abaTpGVHCnD2hU93RWZZ6JAufXIiJWXmVOoCMSIGRpvGXVMB7M 9W9zCJWwvIHBqIV8zKxjRREPhWDX9jHlIDJ2usvfJKOzyeALnlF+caHgbicAmtD0Gt Ksfv74lOzuRET+iezrxuUACUdjfkL1hV93OelqE2TcpaXw+bJr1SFjoApRKSe4wS9j vb9eYFgUA1G7Q== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.196.165]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C30DE120172; Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:03:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <831quoutim.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2022 08:56:33 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292147 Archived-At: > (I also don't think child frames are the right basis for implementing > such popups: they will look ugly. Emacs frames are not suited for > emulating GUI dialog widgets.) AFAIK that's the main use of child frames, tho, and the main motivation for implementing child frames in ttys (to replace things like `popon.el`). Stefan