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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Non-ASCII in Lucid menus
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:13:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7jk7tg55.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4238A5D4.6090701@swipnet.se> (Jan D.'s message of "Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:32:04 +0100")

>> In any case, here is the new improved patch.  This new patch should also
>> enable non-ASCII in Motif menus, although I haven't actually checked it.

> I think you can have that already as long as your menu strings are in your
> locale.  It works for me :-)

Actually, I doubt this is true because the encoding currently used is
"make_string_unibyte", which can only work for unibyte locales.  This much
also already works with Lucid (no need for my patch here).

Hmmm... in the mean time I actually tried my patch with the Motif toolkit
and my claim fell on its face: At least with the lesstif version in "Debian
testing" the menus do not properly display unicode when the locale is
"fr_CH.UTF-8" (locale with which the Lucid menus do display unicode chars
correctly with my patch).

Actually, the precise behavior of the Motif menus in my test indicated that
the utf-8 decoding wasn't even taking place, and the 8-bit bytes of the ut-8
encoding were basically interpreted as latin-1.  I tried to look at
lwlib-Xm.c to see where was the problem, but I really have even less of
a clue than for xlwmenu.c; maybe the problem is simply due to a limitation
in Lesstif, but I've also tried with OpenMotif-2.2.3 and it doesn't seem to
work any better.  I also tried to fix my "fontList" specs (use semi-colons
to separate entreis, and add a colon terminator), but to no avail.

Actually it seems that Motif always assumes the string passed to it is
latin-1 (e.g. even in a greek locale, the greek chars (encoded by Emacs into
8bit chars before handing them off to Motif) end up displayed as latin-1
accented chars).
So my guess is that we do something wrong (Motif obviously supports more
than just latin-1), but we'd need a programmer familiar with Motif to help
us out.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-16 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-12 23:47 Non-ASCII in Lucid menus Stefan Monnier
2005-03-13 11:06 ` Jan D.
2005-03-13 13:44   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-13 17:45     ` Jan D.
2005-03-14 20:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-14 20:56         ` Jan D.
2005-03-14 23:03           ` Miles Bader
2005-03-16 15:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-16 21:32         ` Jan D.
2005-03-16 23:13           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2005-03-16 23:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-17  7:12             ` Jan D.
2005-03-17 13:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-17 23:01         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-18  4:32           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-18 18:20             ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-18 21:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20  0:22                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-20  0:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20  3:21                     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-20 11:46                     ` Jan D.
2005-03-13 18:49 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-14  3:00 ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-18 21:26 Jan D.
2005-03-18 22:06 ` Stefan Monnier

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