From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: New global bindings Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:56:28 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212508676 27573 80.91.229.12 (3 Jun 2008 15:57:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 03 17:58:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K3Ytq-0007Z3-93 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:58:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33406 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3Yt3-0007GI-V9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3Ysy-0007Dz-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:57:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3Ysw-0007AX-Ke for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53703 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3Ysw-0007AL-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:57:18 -0400 Original-Received: from 206-248-132-168.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.132.168]:36218 helo=ceviche.home) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K3Yst-0007i9-HD; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:57:15 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 25BF8B423C; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:56:28 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98304 Archived-At: I have some problems with the new global bindings for C--, C-=, and C-+: 1- they're not mentioned in etc/NEWS (it seems none of the face-remap feature is mentioned there). 2- (control -) was used for negative prefix arguments, so this is a significant change for oldtimers. 3- these are very short key-bindings for a feature that does not seem to require them: you're unlikely to want to do it that frequently. Point nb 1 is easy to fix, maybe I can live with nb 3, but nb 2 seems to be more problematic. So I think we need to find some other key-bindings for that. I think a prefix key followed by +, -, and = (repeatable like C-x e e e e e, maybe even allowing switching between + and -) is the best choice. Stefan