From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Progress: eshell-defgroup. Do we really need this? Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:25:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080729222754.GC2208@muc.de> <20080801161045.GC13919@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218495823 31244 80.91.229.12 (11 Aug 2008 23:03:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 01:04:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSgRG-0004Ce-3W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:04:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45781 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgQJ-00035S-On for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:03:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgQG-00035N-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:03:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgQC-00034z-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:03:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47795 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgQC-00034w-FY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:03:28 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-04.arnet.com.ar ([200.45.191.26]:58523) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSgQB-0004Ie-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:03:28 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 310 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2008 22:59:46 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ceviche.home) (190.30.131.157) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2008 22:59:46 -0000 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D963670E4B; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:25:12 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20080801161045.GC13919@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:10:45 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102307 Archived-At: >> So back to 'make bootstrap'. It says "can't find eshell-defgroup". > make bootstrap is generating loaddefs.el with lines like > (eshell-defgroup eshell-alias nil "Docstring" :tag "Command aliases" :gr\oup 'eshell-module) > , and AFTER them the line which should have come first: > (defalias 'eshell-defgroup 'defgroup) > . It seems that the loaddefs.el generator first builds these > (eshell-defgroup....) lines in eshell/esh-group.el, and then, somehow, > copies them to loaddefs.el. The code isn't easy to understand. Those "(eshell-defgroup" should not be in loaddefs.el but in lisp/eshell/esh-groups.el. This is done by autoload.el, so either we have a bug in autoload.el that sometimes makes it ignore the generated-autoload-file: "esh-groups.el" in the files, or there's some other autoload.el that gets in the way. Stefan