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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, stephen@xemacs.org, rms@gnu.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology in multi-tty primitives
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:14:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7i5bn4ui.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u3ag0oglr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:59:12 +0200")

> However, are we really that sure users won't want to have an ability
> to create frames on other tty's?  By the same token, why do we have
> make-frame-on-display? the same reason(s) would be arguments to retain
> make-frame-on-tty.

Not really: 99.99% of the time, ttys are controlled by a shell, or some
other program, so if we use M-x make-frame-on-tty RET we get into
a situation where 2 programs use this tty at the same time, without any
synchronization between them.  I've used it for debug purposes (to
circumvent the server.el and emacsclient code), but it tends to give you
various forms of display corruption, so it's not really appropriate for
a user command.

>> - still, when make-frame is called with an explicit `tty' argument but
>> without an explicit `window-system' argument, the right thing to do is
>> to give precedence to the `tty' and choose an appropriate
>> window-system for it.

> If we don't need this, why introduce it?

It's not crucial indeed.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-04  3:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-27 18:23 Terminology in multi-tty primitives Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  1:00 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28  4:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  4:28     ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 19:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 19:43         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-29  5:31         ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-29 19:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-29 22:09         ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-30  2:18           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-30 22:26             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  2:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  2:20                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31  3:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  4:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31  6:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 18:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:39                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 21:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:55                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 22:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 23:03                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 16:38                 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 17:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 19:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-01 17:13                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-02 13:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-03  2:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-03  9:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04  3:14                               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-01-04  3:29                                 ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-04  3:41                                   ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-04  4:54                                     ` Chetan Pandya
2008-12-30 22:27             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  5:31               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31  6:28                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  8:33                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 14:18                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-31 15:42                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-28 17:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-28 19:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 19:53   ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-27 18:16 Eli Zaretskii

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