From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrollbar thumbs Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:38:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <16F8B7E14CB049B9A860B703B0776C3F@editkapc> <6FB20B525B45459297A5BB57A36F7A4E@editkapc> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257255793 7161 80.91.229.12 (3 Nov 2009 13:43:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "grischka" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 03 14:43:06 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N5Jf6-0004Nn-GK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:43:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55066 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Jf5-0001Ua-Q3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:43:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Jb1-0000DD-Kc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:38:51 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Jax-0000BT-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:38:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41508 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Jax-0000BM-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:38:47 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:62790 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5Jaw-0000CP-Vz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:38:47 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAAfB70pFpYlL/2dsb2JhbACBUN0QhD0EiG8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,674,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="48600248" Original-Received: from 69-165-137-75.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.137.75]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2009 08:38:40 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 52F1481F9; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:38:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <6FB20B525B45459297A5BB57A36F7A4E@editkapc> (grischka's message of "Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:37:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:116598 Archived-At: > And the consistency aspect of "normal usage" being defined is simply that > widgets are there to provide a consistent look & feel across applications. > It seems inconsequent if on one hand you want to use a widget but on the > other hand want to use it differently to 99% of the other clients. I don't want to use it differently. I only need to implement the check in my own code rather than in theirs because doing it in theirs makes it impossible for me to provide the behavior they want to see. Stefan