From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Displaying bytes Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:41:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20091119155848.GB1314@muc.de> <87aayiihe9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20091119180848.GE1314@muc.de> <47325.130.55.118.19.1258658705.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <20091119212550.GG1314@muc.de> <87my2ign8u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <912155b0911231334s2b52e8eq864251c9aed386b3@mail.gmail.com> <19212.50000.813691.415803@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <87hbsg99jw.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259286106 11609 80.91.229.12 (27 Nov 2009 01:41:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ulrich Mueller , Kenichi Handa , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Reiner Steib Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 02:41:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDpq6-0007wU-98 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:41:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46639 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDpq5-0001vz-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:41:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDppx-0001u5-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:41:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDpps-0001rZ-Pk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:41:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39508 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDpps-0001qy-K8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:41:24 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:16516 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDppq-0007G7-10 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:41:22 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQEAHS9DktFpYc//2dsb2JhbACBTNQehDEEgXKIJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,298,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="50132021" Original-Received: from 69-165-135-63.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.135.63]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 26 Nov 2009 20:41:20 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 95DD5B40E6; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:41:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87hbsg99jw.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:59:47 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117839 Archived-At: >> Seems to me that use of iso-8859-* is much more widespread on *nix >> systems. > As far as I understand, an iso-8859-1 user won't notice any > difference. They'll notice a difference when opening a file that's neither latin-1 nor windows-1252 but which happens to fall within the range of windows-1252 (which is the case for most non-latin1 files). > We have done something similar (see `mm-charset-override-alist') in > Gnus for displaying mis-labelled articles. It's very different: it's perfectly OK to treat a latin-1 message or file as if it were windows-1252. It'll almost always DTRT. The problem is when we have to guess the coding-system, in which case checking windows-1252 instead of latin-1 will give you more false positives. Stefan