From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5842: Move Control modifier only in Emacs Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:40:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <19386.55045.788449.550686@geany.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1334241669 17687 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2012 14:41:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: andrey@fotola.ru, 5842@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 12 16:41:06 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SILCq-0000Mu-AT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:41:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48479 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SILCp-0007uG-Iu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51958) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SILCj-0007sO-A3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SILCb-0001Oa-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57859) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SILCb-0001OW-Pe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:40:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SILDm-0006oJ-8k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:42:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5842 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 5842-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5842.133424167726123 (code B ref 5842); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2012 14:41:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54397 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SILD2-0006nH-Bi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.143.162]:22761) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SILD0-0006nA-2Z for 5842@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:41:14 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUIACxOgk9FxL8q/2dsb2JhbABDuCMDgQyBCIIJAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIHAW2MothhHkEpEWBXYMD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,391,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="173709072" Original-Received: from 69-196-191-42.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.191.42]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Apr 2012 10:40:00 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 36FF359168; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:40:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:30:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:58884 Archived-At: >> I would much prefer a patch that's independent of the underlying GUI, so >> we can use the same config vars under a tty, X11, Windows, ... > That would be a lot better. Is there a particular reason for why all > these other keysum redefinition things (like `x-alt-keysum' and friends) > target X particularly? Historical reasons? Probably historical reasons, yes. The fact that we have many such variables for different GUI backends and that none of them are really general indicates that it's just the result of a patchwork of small changes to cover the submitter's particular needs. IOW, not much design in there. Then again of course, maybe it's not as easy to do in a generic way. Stefan