From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13686: hi-yellow vs. hi-lock-1 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:35:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <878v6vidh7.fsf@gmail.com> <7BC00EAA1AF8466D8F9C17B3CA4E82B8@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361928980 305 80.91.229.3 (27 Feb 2013 01:36:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David Koppelman' , 13686@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 27 02:36:42 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVwm-0008Su-DP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:36:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53118 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVwR-0001gn-JS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44921) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVwN-0001g8-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVwM-0000Hw-9l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:36:15 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46553) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVwM-0000Hs-73 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVy5-00043A-Nf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:38:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13686 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13686-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13686.136192907215552 (code B ref 13686); Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13686) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2013 01:37:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVxv-00042n-MO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:37:51 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:56253) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UAVxp-00042c-No for 13686@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:37:50 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxKJt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GsR+QDpEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxKJt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GsR+QDpEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="2563484" Original-Received: from 69-196-162-109.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.162.109]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 26 Feb 2013 20:35:56 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2F8326CF3D; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:35:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <7BC00EAA1AF8466D8F9C17B3CA4E82B8@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:33:24 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71876 Archived-At: > The main point is that it makes little sense for a face, which is > a variable thingy (changeable, customizable), to have a name that > suggests otherwise, i.e., suggests that it has some _particular_, > constant quality. If the user sets the hi-yellow face to red, she gets what she deserves. > The face name should reflect what the face is for - the kind of > highlighting or whatever that it does. Agreed, and hi-yellow is for highlighting some text in yellow, hence its name. The only real problem is that a user who wants to use a face whose attribute do not agree with any of the predefined hi-* faces might end up forced to use such a silly setting. So the right fix is to provide ways for the user to add her own faces. An alternative might be to let the user specify either a face name or a color name, so we can get rid of hi-yellow altogether. But that still only caters to "highlighting with a color", whereas faces offer more choices. Stefan