From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16255: C-h p C-s games RET (package-show-package-list?) misses most of the games Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87eh50slc4.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <8761qbsxvi.fsf@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388723299 30128 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2014 04:28:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 04:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16255@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ivan Shmakov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 03 05:28:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VywMv-0008N1-2R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:28:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48131 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VywMu-0006cv-Fb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34259) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VywMk-0006cd-5r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:28:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VywMc-0007GW-OL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:28:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VywMc-0007GS-Kx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VywMc-0004jK-9i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 04:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16255 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16255-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16255.138872322718092 (code B ref 16255); Fri, 03 Jan 2014 04:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16255) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2014 04:27:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VywLj-0004hj-49 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:27:07 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:5513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VywLg-0004hZ-M7 for 16255@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 23:27:04 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAJABK/CFFsr+l6/2dsb2JhbABEgiuEHLhHF3OCHgEBBAEjMyMFCwsaAhgOAgIUGA0kiB4Grl+SToEjjlSBEwOIYYl6A5IcgV6DFQ X-IPAS-Result: AsAJABK/CFFsr+l6/2dsb2JhbABEgiuEHLhHF3OCHgEBBAEjMyMFCwsaAhgOAgIUGA0kiB4Grl+SToEjjlSBEwOIYYl6A5IcgV6DFQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="43831365" Original-Received: from 108-175-233-122.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.175.233.122]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Jan 2014 23:27:04 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E3D496006A; Thu, 2 Jan 2014 23:27:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8761qbsxvi.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:35:45 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82848 Archived-At: > To me, the failure of the recent development version to show the > above seems like a regression, regardless of the particulars. Oh, right, sorry. I didn't realize that finder already used package.el in 24.3 to display the packages. Hmm... > If the change made to package.el was indeed intended, then my > guess is that it should=E2=80=99ve been complemented with the changes to > all of the packages above to make them fit the newly imposed > criteria for inclusion. The change was more along the lines that there's no point showing those packages in package.el because there's nothing the user can do with them in terms of install/update/uninstall (by virtue of being built-in and having no version number). But indeed, I see now that package.el was also used by finder as a kind of browser to get at the package's Commentary, in which case those unversioned packages can still be useful. Hmm.... Stefan