From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140102095347.6834E381D0C@snark.thyrsus.com> <87fvp6bdd9.fsf_-_@ktab.red-bean.com> <83wqiixqbb.fsf@gnu.org> <20140102172804.GB13245@thyrsus.com> <83vby2xo6x.fsf@gnu.org> <20140102183432.GB13506@thyrsus.com> <83sit6xgfg.fsf@gnu.org> <8761q18kni.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.org> <838uuxxsxu.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqihw42f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388778572 8494 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2014 19:49:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 19:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, kfogel@red-bean.com, tsdh@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 03 20:49:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzAkS-0008JV-Oh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 20:49:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51540 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzAkR-0002HI-Ud for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:49:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzAkN-0002Gn-Qa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:49:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzAkN-00016k-3r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:49:31 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:9605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzAkE-00014G-Ha; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:49:22 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="43877625" Original-Received: from 184-175-11-38.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.11.38]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Jan 2014 14:49:21 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 72B8760133; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 14:49:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83wqihw42f.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:08:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167213 Archived-At: >> I think getting new blood into emacs devel is critical or we might find >> ourselves in the same situation as bzr a few years later. > I agree about the need, but have my doubts about the results. We've > heard similar arguments for switching from CVS, too. I hope I will be > proven wrong. Using Git won't magically give us any new blood. But using Bzr is a hindrance. A few years ago, users seemed happy to use Hg for one project, Git for another, DaRCS for yet a third, etc.... Nowadays most users complain when they have to learn another tool. Stefan