From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for Windows Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:26:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874mvcc1jh.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2a0bfwu.fsf@gnu.org> <83y4so9jjy.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbns9d5j.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnpjaipi.fsf@gnu.org> <83a953aebr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413034026 8615 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2014 13:27:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:27:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 11 15:26:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XcwhE-00078w-7Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:26:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54180 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcwhD-0003Uy-Rp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:26:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcwgw-0003Tq-TX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:26:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcwgp-00010y-4L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:26:38 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44036) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcwgo-00010s-TA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcwgn-0006yw-JJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:26:29 +0200 Original-Received: from 69-196-168-232.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.196.168.232]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:26:29 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-196-168-232.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:26:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-196-168-232.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KknFrL1oe77ye+v9LIzMxKuN+40= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:100409 Archived-At: >> How is that going to tell you when a bugfix release has been released? > You watch the site where you downloaded the previous one from. Right, and of course that's a different site for each package. To me that reads "nightmare" ;-) >> How is that going to choose where to unzip? > It doesn't. _You_ decide. Some see that as an advantage. I can definitely see the advantage of doing things manually, but in my experience, the majority of users is not very disciplined, so this one reads like "big mess". >> How is that going to uninstall the old version? > No need, the new files will overwrite the old ones. >> And of course, you end up with umpteen copies of the dependencies, but >> I guess only anal-retentive nit pickers will care about the wasted disk >> and RAM space. > Exactly. Besides, other packages, not yet updated, could still need > the old dependencies anyway. So as long as there's no new release of Emacs (say), you'll keep on using whichever version of the libraries was current at the time, with their security bugs and all. Yay! > The other form is some kind of installer. Which wouldn't make any difference, except maybe in choosing the place where you install the files, which is the more minor of the problems. Stefan