From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bundling GNU ELPA packages with Emacs - what are we missing? Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:52:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y2lj4975.fsf@gmx.de> <86363pe7ki.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29297"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 22:53:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGTZZ-0007UM-A9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 22:53:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGTZY-0003eo-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGTZ1-0003EF-3j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:12737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGTYy-0008Vv-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DE135440FD3; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5D559440FC7; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:52:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1599771178; bh=Nux9A33fyRpb7uuvwin4IR82aBxcoEZjkBtlm5DpMfU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=V7FOULn4ww0XYggBOCbXhhr0E/ag/qcBeM3Zwn7/JQFRPZ8Bx0I9F9fLQaYG2L/vn z0PQQOBLJN0nR5icL+yrXxUEq70UMGv8UsnOvMexN9p/f4WIY8+HM1dWVMJBkfawQR xK8o/aU6Hw4moZxQ0HBzrifIdLRPFdu9jImwa+W0AbC9Z98MvDQvaD0YY1r652hOZG YopVzCwNyRaNXs3dyLnULkZOJJQP69aqDzj4suB3gkPiLRq8AOVcBWtiasmbP84Mbt EU1/qk7czMIjug2EGcrDUHjJUxD6FRvMZo0bwAogMf6AMgBNObo7ImtRLnlNtV1C8Z NNQc/QhD5j9YQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 392E212076C; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:52:58 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <86363pe7ki.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:49:01 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/10 16:47:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255051 Archived-At: > It might help if there was a mechanism to freeze packages, so no > upgrades are suggested for packages that are frozen. There's a mechanism to control which version of a package is used (i.e. `package-load-list`). We could/should refrain from auto-updating package whose version is "frozen" this way. Note that the purpose of `package-load-list` is not to prevent installing other versions, but to prevent *activating* other versions. Stefan