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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Patch for emacs/basic.texi
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:40:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7dstu9tv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1kIPdi-0000nC-69@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 16 Sep 2020 01:05:54 -0400")

> +  On a graphics terminal, the easiest way to invoke @code{undo} is
> +with @kbd{C-/}; that doesn't need the shift key.

This is true for the US keyboard layout but is not true in general, so
it should be appropriately qualified.

> On a text terminal, +@kbd{C-/} does not exist, but usually you can
> type @kbd{C-_} without +the shift key and it will work anyway.

Similarly, I can imagine some terminals where C-/ works, as well as
keyboards where "_" doesn't require a shift key, or terminals where "C-_
without the shift key" won't send a byte-sequence that ends up bound to
`undo`.

E.g. I just tried `C-h k C--` in a "plain old xterm" here with a US keyboard
and Emacs told me:

    C-- (translated from M-[ 2 7 ; 5 ; 4 5 ~) runs the command
    negative-argument (found in global-map), which is an interactive
    compiled Lisp function in ‘simple.el’.
    [...]

OTOH, `C-h k C-/` in this same terminal gave me:

    \^_ runs the command undo (found in global-map), which is an
    interactive compiled Lisp function in ‘simple.el’.
    [...]

Could it be that you misremembered what was the "trick" behind having
both `C-/` and `C-_` keybindings (it's not `C--` but `C-/` that gets
mapped to C-_)?


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-16  5:05 Patch for emacs/basic.texi Richard Stallman
2020-09-16  5:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 14:17   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 15:11     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16  6:00 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16  6:20   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-16  6:53     ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-16  9:19       ` Antoine Kalmbach
2020-09-16 15:43         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-16 16:59           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16 18:26             ` Repeating commands (was: Patch for emacs/basic.texi) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-16 12:40       ` Patch for emacs/basic.texi Stefan Kangas
2020-09-17  3:53         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-18  4:04   ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-18  6:09     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-18  6:35       ` Mathias Dahl
2020-09-16 13:40 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-09-17  3:57   ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-18  7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii

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