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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is `eval' allowed to modify its argument?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:01:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv7dqouaqq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 875z693x1z.fsf@web.de

>> > So do we consider that a bug in `thunk-let*'?
>> Yes.  Most likely a misuse of `nreverse` or something like that.
> Exactly that, yes.  AFAIR I used `nreverse' on purpose: back then I had
> thought it would not matter.

Destructive operations on lists, like `nreverse` or `sort` should (as
a general rule) only ever be used on lists you yourself just constructed
(so you can be (almost) 100% sure you hold the one and only reference to the list
and nobody else will be able to witness the destructiveness).

Using it on something you received as an argument is basically always
a bug, unless it's clearly documented (as is done, for example, in the
doc of `nreverse`).


        Stefan


PS: The "almost" above is because in Elisp you can't really be sure of
    anything, thanks to things like advice.  That's why users of advice
    are warned that it's up to them to deal with any problem that may
    result of poor interaction between their code and the rest.




  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-13 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-12 21:06 Is `eval' allowed to modify its argument? Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-12 21:18 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-12 22:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-13 11:29   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-13 14:12     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-13 18:56       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-13 23:01         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-11-13 23:14           ` Drew Adams

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