From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:14:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a5zj2vfo.fsf@gmail.com> <87wn2modrm.fsf@posteo.net> <87ile6o2ov.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1mz38rl.fsf@posteo.net> <87ile2n0kn.fsf@gmail.com> <83r0sp8xih.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29051"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, joaotavora@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 12 16:15:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pmbFp-0007KI-2b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=bulAwrXzVf6T9MkcI4gPILt+SkfZGRMLyk24BVV1dABRR+T85wIkdiEexY5a45KM+ AZzqkIzXyBOucpVWMZLUTxMHXjKZYL39u45AiLRPbm9Wlw35pv1zMVK17VOBNApoGo aETIIw1EuEHZdg+MgXZNZjJMW5rwFtmgKiMPZZgQQbSHaDfYvfH4Cq8+7sk5ZPbnO2 qN4P3DDkhDhGaKNb4Pun8tOGZiO8Mr6h2ceFCps13e5LaX59D1gFzyF7Hh8rbNEYdW a2jw2qxnoUT9zycIVQSkeRcrxvWW56wSV6NJrS7y1ouAEEXYzr2r7h06fl59Ofgy6Q YbYgZU4qGih3g== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.217.176]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F1D41202F2; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:14:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83r0sp8xih.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 12 Apr 2023 08:44:54 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259747 Archived-At: >> Hmm... it might make sense to treat builtins specially in this respect. >> Of course, maybe it's OK, but for some reason I feel a bit uncomfortable >> with the idea that `M-x package-update-all` would update all the >> `:core` packages. >> >> I'm not sure why, admittedly, but I think it comes down to the fact that >> the first upgrade of a `:core` package from GNU ELPA feels to me more >> like an "install" than an "upgrade". > > Which means my proposal of adding a new command > package-update-core-package makes more and more sense: we will FWIW, I'm not sure it's needed: when the user asks to `package-update` the Eglot package, then we should upgrade `eglot`, regardless if it's builtin. My comment was specifically for `M-x package-update-all`. Stefan