From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: what is the point of point-min? Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:04:23 GMT Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3F4E2B31.5070904@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1062505684 4227 80.91.224.253 (2 Sep 2003 12:28:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 02 14:28:02 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19uAGQ-0008Ru-00 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2003 14:28:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19u9dm-00057d-MY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2003 07:48:06 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!charlie.risq.qc.ca!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.204.26.236 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca Original-X-Trace: charlie.risq.qc.ca 1062435863 132.204.26.236 (Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:04:23 EDT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:04:23 EDT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:116309 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12226 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12226 > and XEmacs. One of my personal favories (ugh) is how they both handle the > no-conversion coding system. FSF and X do different things, neither of > which are in fact no conversion (at least, that was the case last time I > did anything along those lines). Maybe it's been changed since, but at least now Emacs's `no-conversion' is an alias for `binary' and thus treats every byte as a character without any attempt to convert it in any way. Stefan