From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Post-22.1 development? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878xb05ras.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200706101559.l5AFxBFb006829@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <86fy4yg62v.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181665806 14417 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2007 16:30:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 12 18:30:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hy9Fn-0002F9-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:29:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy9Fm-0004Cd-Tg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy9Fj-0004CP-EE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy9Fh-0004C5-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy9Fh-0004C2-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:53 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts25.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.188] helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy9Ff-0003gq-F2; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([70.55.144.170]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070612162950.HVXX25739.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:50 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2F2C4803E; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:29:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue\, 12 Jun 2007 12\:00\:09 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72702 Archived-At: > Well, the setenv/process-environment thing I wanted to have a look at: > in the current state, it will require quite a few changes in existing > packages (including packages not distributed as part of Emacs), and I > think that the approach which I sketched out would pretty much > eliminate that problem. > That's what I would consider sort of speaking against a merge right > now: it might cause unnecessary work (later likely to be reverted) at > other locations. > That is a good reason for delaying this. I think the right way to do it is to change the multi-tty code's handling of environment so that it preserves the old behavior (and probably breaks some of the multi-tty support), then merge into the trunk, then try and fix the multi-tty part of the breakage. Stefan