From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs pretest 22.1.91 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ejb8vl0i.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <47C55A60.5010709@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204160632 29840 80.91.229.12 (28 Feb 2008 01:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, matsuan@ca2.so-net.ne.jp, Jason Rumney To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 28 02:04:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JUXC5-000444-Ja for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:04:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JUXBZ-0007sx-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JUXBU-0007sg-L6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JUXBS-0007sI-LO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JUXBS-0007sE-GS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JUXBL-0001Tb-1B; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:31 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIuXxUdMCpz5Wmdsb2JhbACQXgEgnXOBAg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,416,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15324662" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 27 Feb 2008 20:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([76.10.156.249]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id IDF27730; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C50307F25; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:54:25 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90678 Archived-At: >> There's gotta be a better fix, > I don't doubt it, but I'm a bit short of ideas right now. I'm all ears. > However, let me extend the "yuck" comment to many (I don't dare to say > most) multi-tty code. The functionality is great, I suppose. Yes, the multi-tty code introduced several problems, but when we bump into them we shouldn't try to circumvent them and hence introduce more such problems. Instead we should take a step back and try and see what is a real solution. In this case, I believe the solution is to setup the tool-bar-map at the very beginning (maybe even before dumping), and then have a function (run after the .emacs) that can fix up the tool-bar-map by replacing the default image choice with the preferred images for the current setup (so it can obey image-library-alist, display-color-p, etc..). Stefan