From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#641: format-time-string %Z does not work, starting with Emacs 22.2 Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:46:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4897737C.90709@gmx.at> <86fxphgdw1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <489B441F.6070402@gmail.com> <489B5792.80504@gmail.com> <489B5CDC.3050902@gmail.com> <489B634C.1040602@gmail.com> <489B69B3.7000502@gmail.com> <86ljz7eefb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <002601c8f96f$6c224350$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218497345 2731 80.91.229.12 (11 Aug 2008 23:29:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 01:29:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSgpL-000463-4W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:29:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55395 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgoP-0006Hs-1q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:28:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgnV-0005Xx-M1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgnS-0005W2-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:27:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55795 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSgnS-0005Vh-2X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:42868) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSgnR-0006fC-Ls for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSgnQ-0007q7-Ne for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7BNRO1U017788; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:27:26 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m7BNAFXK012763; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:10:15 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , don@donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:10:15 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 641 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 641-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B641.12184957109534 (code B ref 641); Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:10:15 +0000 Original-Received: (at 641) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Aug 2008 23:01:50 +0000 Original-Received: from smtp-05.arnet.com.ar (smtp-05.arnet.com.ar [200.45.191.5]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id m7BN1eja009467 for <641@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:01:42 -0700 Original-Received: (qmail 2838 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2008 16:59:44 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ceviche.home) (190.30.131.157) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2008 16:59:44 -0000 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3B8C0B40AF; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:46:44 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:22:30 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:27:32 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19305 Archived-At: >> IOW, we should give users _both_ possibilities unambiguously: Posix-only and >> possibly-non-Posix, better-than-nothing, YMMV, human-readable name. >> >> We can do that by introducing a new format key, in addition to %Z. > I'm okay with having a new format, or with adding a function that > would return a time-zone name that is just a string, not the spec > codified by Posix. (It could return strings like "Asia/Riyadh" on > Posix platforms.) I could live with it, tho its usefulness is far from obvious. In any case it would not be for Emacs-23 and I'd recommend potential hackers to work on something else as that's more likely to be useful. Stefan