From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, Emacs <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Window configurations
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:20:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv6322lg6y.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C052F8C.8030208@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:04:28 +0200")
>>> We could make this customizable.
>> No, we want instead to try and think in each case which behavior would
>> make more sense.
> We probably all agree that a window should not show a buffer visible
> elsewhere when its buffer is killed or buried and its window-local
> buffer list contains no other buffer.
Makes sense, yes/
> Maybe we also agree that we should show such a buffer when the window
> was "stolen" by a construct like `with-temp-buffer'.
with-temp-buffer is probably a poor example since it doesn't affect
windows, but if you mean something like with-output-to-temp-buffer, then
yes, we probably all agree.
> However, I'm afraid that there's no good approximation for the remaining
> cases. There are people used to edit large buffers by showing related
> sections in two or more windows. And there are people who don't do
> that. [The latter group should not be affected much by the new behavior
> since we expect them to never show the same buffer twice at the same
> time. But I'm not sure whether the use of `split-window' runs counter
> to such an assumption.]
We can solve each case as it shows up. E.g. for the split-window case
(i.e. buffer shown in 2 windows only because that's what split-window
does, but the user then immediately switches to some other buffer), we
should try and find a way to capture the user's intention.
E.g. "immediately" after split-window, any set-window-buffer will not
push the current buffer on the buffer-list of that window.
>> And maybe you're right that in "all" cases, trying to restore the
>> previous window state is TRT, rather than choosing some
>> non-shown buffer.
> I cannot be right since I never proposed that ;-)
I thought you suggested to have a config var to decide whether to use
the current heuristic, or to use another heuristic which prefers buffers
from the window's buffer-list regardless of whether they are
shown elsewhere. Isn't that what you meant in:
>> we should think about how we can tell which is
>> the better choice in a given situation.
> We could make this customizable.
-- Stefan
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2010-04-01 16:52 Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-01 17:45 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 18:03 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:18 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 7:10 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:51 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02 6:49 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 9:21 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02 2:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-02 7:00 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 6:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 9:59 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02 15:10 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 16:55 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-05 8:50 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 12:44 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:34 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 18:03 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 22:09 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 5:45 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 8:16 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 10:52 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 17:28 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 18:33 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-21 8:55 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 9:46 ` David Kastrup
2010-04-21 15:43 ` Juri Linkov
[not found] ` <jwv633k4rn2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-22 8:16 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 15:08 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-23 8:33 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 13:54 ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-21 15:45 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 16:04 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-22 8:14 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 16:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-24 18:45 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 16:53 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-23 18:02 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 18:28 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24 9:17 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 14:41 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24 18:49 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 19:24 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-25 5:36 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-25 9:15 ` martin rudalics
2010-04-25 18:33 ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Juri Linkov
2010-04-26 16:16 ` Window configurations martin rudalics
2010-04-27 8:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 12:54 ` martin rudalics
2010-04-27 18:03 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 19:47 ` Info buffers in Desktop Juri Linkov
2010-04-28 7:12 ` Window configurations martin rudalics
2010-04-28 8:27 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 19:55 ` Davis Herring
2010-04-28 7:12 ` martin rudalics
2010-04-28 14:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-28 8:35 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-28 14:15 ` Davis Herring
2010-05-07 18:14 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-30 3:19 ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Ken Hori
2010-04-30 20:33 ` Window configurations Stefan Monnier
2010-05-02 20:31 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 23:34 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-03 0:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-03 0:57 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03 2:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-04 16:09 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05 6:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 13:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-05 14:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 21:59 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 20:28 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03 3:31 ` Ken Hori
2010-05-04 16:12 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05 9:19 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-06 8:21 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 20:47 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-10 19:16 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-11 7:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-11 16:45 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-12 9:29 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 22:46 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14 6:59 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-16 22:51 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-17 9:06 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-17 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-18 12:07 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 17:28 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 18:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-31 19:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-31 20:23 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01 9:24 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 20:19 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01 3:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 9:25 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 12:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 9:24 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 13:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 14:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-01 16:04 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-06-02 12:59 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 14:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:46 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:55 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-14 17:05 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-14 21:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-15 7:08 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-15 21:31 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-16 17:25 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-16 20:51 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 7:58 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17 8:42 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 10:20 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17 20:38 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 22:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-18 6:34 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-18 8:28 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-18 9:04 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19 8:50 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 13:47 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19 14:12 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 18:56 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:51 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:49 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03 8:57 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 14:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03 15:42 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-04 14:07 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:59 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 10:36 ` Richard Stallman
2010-06-04 14:06 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04 8:11 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:57 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:47 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:31 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03 18:52 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04 8:11 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 17:09 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:49 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 21:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:30 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 10:38 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07 1:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 13:40 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 17:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-08 13:06 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-08 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 13:20 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-11 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 17:12 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06 8:22 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06 14:59 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 16:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-08 3:09 ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-08 13:54 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-08 15:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 14:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-09 14:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 15:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 9:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 9:23 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-29 10:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 10:37 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 12:16 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 20:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 20:01 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-30 6:35 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-30 8:12 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10 19:19 ` Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Stefan Monnier
2010-04-02 16:19 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02 18:31 ` Daniel Colascione
2010-04-02 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-03 6:29 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-03 9:07 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02 6:53 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02 7:25 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-04 11:01 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-02 12:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-05 13:31 Window configurations grischka
2010-05-05 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05 19:47 ` grischka
2010-05-05 20:07 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-06 11:18 grischka
2010-05-11 13:54 grischka
2010-05-12 9:28 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-12 11:12 ` grischka
2010-05-12 13:03 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-12 18:33 ` grischka
2010-05-13 10:22 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 11:40 ` grischka
2010-05-13 13:53 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 17:13 ` grischka
2010-05-13 22:57 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14 6:58 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-14 10:42 ` grischka
2010-05-14 11:45 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-14 13:32 ` grischka
2010-05-13 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14 11:12 ` grischka
2010-05-14 11:45 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-16 22:49 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-17 9:06 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-17 22:48 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-13 22:48 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14 7:00 ` martin rudalics
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