From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7583: 23.2; ido loads tramp too eagerly Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:31:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8739esu4p6.fsf@gmail.com> <8739eslo7f.fsf@gmx.de> <87y5wkskfd.fsf@gmail.com> <87ty78rvlf.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318858342 22568 80.91.229.12 (17 Oct 2011 13:32:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7583@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 15:32:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnIg-00054C-9A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:32:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37580 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnIf-0003Fb-Sf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnId-0003FK-DN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnIZ-0003e0-3p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:32:15 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnIY-0003dw-TS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:32:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnJO-00008z-3F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:33:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7583 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7583-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7583.1318858334494 (code B ref 7583); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2011 13:32:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnIb-00007u-SF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:32:14 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFnIa-00007i-Ag for 7583@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:32:13 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak0JAEUtnE5Ld/8E/2dsb2JhbABDmTyPK4EGgW4BAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIErNNiAgEoSeERQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,359,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="142391294" Original-Received: from 75-119-255-4.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.255.4]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 17 Oct 2011 09:31:15 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 40FF7590F5; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:31:15 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87ty78rvlf.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:16:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:33:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52714 Archived-At: > without starting tramp I do not know what that means. AFAIK there are two relevant "actions": - start a Tramp session. This means to connect to a particular host, so clearly it can't be done before you've actually typed the complete host name. - load "tramp.el". Nowadays, this should be barely noticeable. But indeed I do see a "Loading tramp-sh...done". I wonder where this message comes from, we should probably suppress it. Stefan