From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10460: 24.0.92; css-mode sexp movement Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:46:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87iogv9kmv.fsf@tromey.com> <877fxav2ft.fsf@tromey.com> <87387yuusm.fsf@tromey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419907638 15766 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2014 02:47:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10460@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 30 03:47:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpx-0000w3-St for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 03:47:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35444 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpx-0000qg-7D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:47:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56373) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpt-0000qU-EF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpq-0004hr-7p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:47:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpq-0004hl-4d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpp-0003Ml-Nt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:47:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10460-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10460.141990760512915 (code B ref 10460); Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2014 02:46:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpZ-0003MF-44 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:46:45 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:13038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5mpW-0003M6-9p for 10460@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:46:43 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8PAOwQflRFpY0B/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVawjuCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBAwFWDxQFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQEBAQQBAQEBHpBvB4RIBYsBpC6BeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IPAS-Result: Aj8PAOwQflRFpY0B/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVawjuCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBAwFWDxQFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQEBAQQBAQEBHpBvB4RIBYsBpC6BeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="104000819" Original-Received: from 69-165-141-1.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.141.1]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 29 Dec 2014 21:46:41 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2177B660FB; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:46:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87387yuusm.fsf@tromey.com> (Tom Tromey's message of "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:20:57 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97820 Archived-At: > However, this asymmetry does seem less regular, and IMO therefore less > useful, than a simpler lexically-based movement scheme. It's actually more powerful. E.g. when point is on a comma separating two arguments, C-M-t swaps the two arguments. > Also conformity with other modes is a distinct plus It's consistent with Lisp code (because the new behavior only occurs for situations which don't exist in Lisp). But it's not consistent with non-SMIE non-Lisp-like languages, indeed. > It's handy to have movement commands that means "symbol or balanced > paren-like things". I always thought that was *-sexp. You can still have that if you set forward-sexp-function to nil. Stefan