From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Async package.el Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:46:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <55228FD2.3080501@yandex.ru> <552330A2.1090406@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428443214 15667 80.91.229.3 (7 Apr 2015 21:46:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 21:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 07 23:46:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YfbKV-0001Se-Na for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 23:46:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49031 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfbKU-0003a0-S0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:46:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57582) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfbKI-0003YS-6d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:46:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfbKF-0004Is-0q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:46:30 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:12593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YfbKE-0004Im-UQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:46:26 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRBbthL/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYwhQwkDA4M+A4NwBKg7 X-IPAS-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRBbthL/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYwhQwkDA4M+A4NwBKg7 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,1,1400040000"; d="scan'208";a="115653707" Original-Received: from 65-110-216-75.cpe.pppoe.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([65.110.216.75]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 07 Apr 2015 17:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3A1CEDF8; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 17:46:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <552330A2.1090406@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 07 Apr 2015 04:19:30 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185117 Archived-At: > To take this further (and forgive the negativity), maybe we should > back-pedal on adding the asynchronous interface to downloading package > archives, too. I strongly disagree. > While doing it in parallel is great, refreshing the table of > packages right under the user's nose is bound to create problems. PCL-CVS and VC-Dir have been doing the same for years with great success. It shouldn't cause problems. But indeed, to make it work well requires extra care. > - Wait until the user invokes `M-x list-packages' to update it. We could do > it while Emacs is idle. I suspect you mean to add a "Don't" at the very beginning. It'd be acceptable to add such a (mis)feature, but it should very clearly be OFF by default, since we don't want Emacs to "call home" in such a way by default. Stefan