From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: port x-symbol to GNU emacs 24. Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:21:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87oaia6ict.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <837foxor1t.fsf@gnu.org> <878u9d7vdg.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87pp2pq2ht.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439572935 26681 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2015 17:22:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , XEmacs Beta Discussion , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uwe Brauer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 14 19:22:05 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQIg4-0001MJ-2r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 19:22:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47581 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQIg3-0000ch-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41911) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQIfz-0000cA-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQIfu-00068W-0B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:49182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQIft-00067t-RC; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.DIT.UMontreal.CA (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t7EHLh58030830; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:21:43 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E83FB66132; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:21:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87pp2pq2ht.fsf@gnu.org> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Fri, 14 Aug 2015 18:05:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5398=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5398> : inlines <3646> : streams <1488338> : uri <2014517> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188799 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:39298 Archived-At: > Emacs' overlays serve the same purpose as XEmacs' extents, and I think > there is or has been some 3rd-party package providing a unified API for > overlays and extents. Indeed there is: it's overlay.el (which adds Emacs's API to XEmacs and hence doesn't help here). > But I have no clue what specifiers are... Presumably this code was not run in Emacs-21, so you'll have to figure out why (maybe some `fboundp' which returned t in Emacs-21 but doesn't any more?). > I just downloaded x-symbol 4.5.1, and in its x-symbol-emacs.el there are > several aliases defined for things that error for you. For example, > `map-extents' is made an alias for `cl-map-overlays'. Was renamed to cl--map-overlays back in the cl-lib overhaul. David wrote: > The main "not elsewhere" category I see are XEmacs' extensive input > modes (grid which is sort of a buffer-based menu, keyboard input methods > quite better sorted and convenient than what Quail offers and with > better feedback). Its buffer reencoding is a rather mixed blessing, but > it works with more than just TeX modes. I never found the buffer-reencoding very convincing/convenient and even less so nowadays, but indeed I sometimes miss the various input methods of X-Symbol. Ideally, those should be extracted into their own package. Stefan