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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: 21380@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21380: 25.0.50; GTK-induced segfault when scheduling timer from window-configuration-change-hook
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2015 18:22:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv613nnqkz.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBeqoKaE=31v8QzLcjDq0=m3ERSXx_33Zr4aZyOSxQB0aw@mail.gmail.com> (Pip Cet's message of "Sat, 5 Sep 2015 16:59:06 +0000")

> I haven't tested this, but I think it would. I still think the underlying
> problem here is not having a well-defined rule for when QUIT is allowed to
> call Lisp code.

Indeed.  Tho see below.

> (Eli correctly objected to my initial idea that the rule should be
> "never",

Hmm... "never" does sound enticing, tho clearly debug-on-quit
challenges the idea.

> but I still think it should be "much less often than we currently do".

OTOH, as soon as it's not "never", then it tends to means "be prepared:
this can run arbitrary Elisp code".

So maybe the issue is not just "when" but also "what": we could limit
the kind of Elisp code that's run by QUIT.  This is a lot more
difficult, tho.

> that QUIT shouldn't call hooks, but should be able to call isolated
> functions implemented in Lisp, such as those used for relative font sizing).

And then someone wants to add an advice on those functions
(e.g. debug-on-entry, trace-function, you name it), and suddenly your
carefully coded function ends up doing all kinds of other things.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-06 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-30 12:51 bug#21380: 25.0.50; GTK-induced segfault when scheduling timer from window-configuration-change-hook Pip Cet
2015-08-30 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-30 15:24   ` Pip Cet
2015-08-30 15:27     ` Pip Cet
2015-08-30 16:24       ` Pip Cet
2015-08-30 18:10         ` martin rudalics
2015-08-30 18:20           ` Pip Cet
2015-08-30 19:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-30 18:59           ` Pip Cet
2015-08-31  9:20             ` martin rudalics
2015-08-30 16:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-30 16:42       ` Pip Cet
2015-08-30 19:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-30 20:56           ` Pip Cet
2015-08-30 21:13             ` Pip Cet
2015-08-31 14:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 10:20               ` Pip Cet
2015-09-01 15:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 15:22                   ` Pip Cet
2015-09-01 16:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 16:02                       ` Pip Cet
2015-09-01 16:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-02  7:02                       ` martin rudalics
2015-09-02 14:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 15:36                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-05  7:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-05 15:18                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-05 15:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-06 22:11                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-04-29 12:52                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-29 13:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-29 13:44                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-29 15:02                                   ` Pip Cet
2015-09-05 16:59                           ` Pip Cet
2015-09-06 22:22                             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-09-08 15:55                               ` Pip Cet
2015-09-01 15:14                 ` Pip Cet
2015-09-01 16:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 16:56                     ` Pip Cet
2015-09-01 17:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 20:48                         ` Pip Cet
2015-09-02 15:08                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-02 16:09                             ` Pip Cet
2015-09-02 19:13                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-02 22:08                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-09-07 17:07                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 17:47                             ` Pip Cet
2020-09-07 19:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08  9:57                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 12:14                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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